At times the compelling evidence of a successful engagement forces even me to refrain from my admitted conservative bias and admit that "AfroSpear's 'Police: Stop Electrocutions While Black' Protest Day" on Friday December 4, 2009 was a success.
On that day and the days following I have heard of no news that a Black man, anywhere in the entire nation was killed by the police after having been tasered.
After having dismissed all other rational justifications in which I could explain away this fact - I am prepared to give credit and honor to AfroSpear. They showed how an activist movement should be executed.
- Define The Offense That Will No Longer Be Tolerated - Executions By Taser
- Define WHO Is The Key Threat To The Black Community - The Police
- Mobilize An Information Movement By Which The Terms That You Demand Are Made Clear: The Electrocuted While Black Web Site
- Define A Day Of Protest In Which All Forces Can Be Directed Toward The Problem: December 4th 2009
Now that I have put aside my own ideological bias in support of the progressive-fundamentalists who dominate AfroSpear I ask that they support my effort: The "STOP THE STREET PIRATE ATTACK MOVEMENT" - December 5, 2009 through December 3, 2010
As you see in the link below: In just one city - Atlanta,GA the Street Pirates nave chosen to not respect the cease fire related to the anti-taser movement.
AJC: Bloody weekend in metro Atlanta
Here is my proposal to deal with street pirates:
- Of those who do carry firearms - Mandatory marksmanship training. Since so frequently the shoot into crowds and kill innocent bystanders (see the murdered Spelman student from this past summer) at least if they are going to kill a fellow pirate they may as well be accurate.
- Offer the Street Pirates training in non-lethal weapons along with the police. Whereas it would be unrealistic to expect them to go unarmed - at least if they were provided with tasers they could fight it out with less deadly results.
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You really should tase yourself.
LOL
RiPPa,
I'm very curious as to why you're not bothered enough to address the number 1 killer of black men. I'm not trying to be arguementative, but could you please explain.
@Diane: Where did you get the impression that I'm not bothered to discuss the #1 killer of Black men?
Diana:
You have to understand my friend RiPPa and other "Friends of AfroSpear".
I call them "Protesters Of Leisure".
In today's world they have the comfort of picking and choosing the issues that they choose to aggressively respond to. This comes from the fact that so much of the "low hanging fruit" has been picked already.
Diane I still challenge you. Can you prove that the work of RiPPa and those who are AfroSpear members are NOT responsible for the fact that no Blacks have been electrocuted by the police since Dec 4th?
They have my full backing.
RiPPa,
the #1 killer of black men in this country is not police brutality, but black on black crime. Has AfroSpear planned any public protest to address this pandemic? Are blacks being held to the same standards of whites? Shouldn't we lift higher moral standards for ourselves and hold each other accountable? Shouldn't we stand against corruption amongst our own?
I don't know how you feel about these issues, I can only presume based on your first comment that you don't feel the need to demand with passion and conviction that blacks value life, but only require that of whites.
We are only hurting ourselves when we don't address this as publicly as we do police tasering.
Again, could you explain why the terror in our streets doesn't warrant a consistant public call for integrity in the black community?
CF,
I wouldn't be able to prove that Afrospear was not responsible for blacks not being electrocuted. That would be great only if our police officers are not hindered from doing their jobs. Now if they could focus on raising the standards to value life in the music industry, tv and every medium that proliferates the death mentality in our community.
There seems to be a notion that whites are the only ones to be criticized....
Thanks RiPPa, I hope you will discuss the questions above with me, and thanks to CF, for raising these issues, allowing this to be a place for a day two way discussion.
@Diane: Again I ask, where do you get the idea that I am not concerned about Black on Black crime?
Certainly it couldn't be because as a member of an ONLINE organization we ran a campaign that circulated a petition to present to Congress to look into the 50+ taser deaths of individuals by the police, no?
You see Diane, the truth is, you read this post written by someone who has no clue about just what the AfroSpear is about. Or even the various areas of outreach or activism the group is involved in.
The group itself is made up of individuals of all races around the world who are active and or concerned with issues affecting the community at large. There is a focus on social justice as well as health and wellness and a host of other interests.
The stop taser torture campaign was not exsclusively one of the AfroSpear. In truth, it was a dday of activism world wide which included a petition to be presented to the United Nations. So you see, this is bigger than presented.
Actually what was presented in the post above was the bias on one individual who has taken up the cause to rally against progressive bloggers of color - trust me, his agenda and antics are well known around the blogosphere hence the reason he felt the need to "name drop" me in his post.
Now, he tackles the issue of black on black crime on this blog almost everyday. But he would be hard pressed to show the impact this has had on the black community specifically in the city he lives in.
As a group, or as individuals who use this medium for online activism - which happens to be a very useful tool in that regard. I would love to hear what I or other members of the AfroSpear can do from behind the screen of a monitor to affect change within the black community as far as black on black crime is concerned.
Any ideas?
[quote]You see Diane, the truth is, you read this post written by someone who has no clue about just what the AfroSpear is about. Or even the various areas of outreach or activism the group is involved in.[/quote]
My friend RiPPa:
AfroSpear SHOWS WHAT IT IS ALL ABOUT constantly.
There is a list of THREATS to the Black community that most rational people could loosely agree upon.
AfroSpear (and "What Color Change Did MoveOn.org Give Us To Spout Their Message Into The Black Community") constantly focus upon perceived threats that have an EXTERNAL component to them. In as much as you all are left biased these threats are typically Police Authority, Republicans or Corporations.
We could have a record year of B on B homicides and you all would go after the GUNS rather than the Street Pirates.
Face it RiPPa - it is in your ideological DNA to do this.
@CF: How has your rants be they against the AfroSpear or your continued expression of disgust about black on black crime helped change anything? Maybe it is you who should re-evaluate your approach for effectiveness.
Or could it be that myself and some of the members of the group are diametrically opposed to your ideological leanings? I thought this was about the black community and not politics - which one is it?
And you wonder why nobody takes you seriously...
[quote]@CF: How has your rants be they against the AfroSpear or your continued expression of disgust about black on black crime helped change anything? Maybe it is you who should re-evaluate your approach for effectiveness.[/quote]
RiPPa - I am CONTENT with my progress. My job is to raise awareness about the goings-on Within The Black Community and operate as a CHECK upon those who prefer to obfuscate upon other subjects that better match their own ideological leanings.
I see my work effort along the same lines of the sign that the great Ida B Wells used to hang from her window: "A Black man was lynched yesterday".
[quote]Or could it be that myself and some of the members of the group are diametrically opposed to your ideological leanings? I thought this was about the black community and not politics - which one is it?[/quote]
RiPPa - I LONG for the day in which it was about THE BLACK COMMUNITY rather than defending the prevailing ideology that lords over it. We have reached a point where the antics produced by people with your ideological tendencies can no longer be explained in the context of our present condition.
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And you wonder why nobody takes you seriously...[/quote]
That's just it RiPPa - my WORTH is not handed over to you to make light of. I believe that my work has enough integrity whereby all who are interested in hearing me out will at least be compelled by my arguments and begin to ASK QUESTIONS of those they typically aren't inclined to do so of.
This argument is like the classical "All White Jury" saying to the Black man: You Negroes who come before us are ALWAYS GUILTY OF SOMETHING......that's why you have a 100% conviction rate when you come before us.
Hello CF and RiPPa.
RiPPa,
as to your question "Again I ask, where do you get the idea that I am not concerned about Black on Black crime?"
- I can only base my impressions on your personal responses to this post and to the other post, where I asked you a similar question about the killing of a man at a club (I think that is where he was killed-this is not verbatim, but your response was kind of "so what" "he's at a bar" "that's not injustice" etc). You might remember that thread. But based on what you've said how can anyone unbiased come to any other conclusion? I think this is a fair assumption. So I hope I have clarified that my opinions are not based on your involvement at other websites. If you look at my first question to you in this thread you'll also see my question is not based on CF post & opinions or AfroSpear. In fact, I only mentioned AfroSpear in response to CF pointing out the results of the campaign.
The many post that I have read here only challenges the double standard that's prevalent in the AA community and crippling true progress. What good does it do to focus on policy without challenging individuals to responsible living?
Well we both know the value of the press, so we would be hardpressed to see all the good that comes from someone willing to go against the popular but detrimental ideas oppressing our people. Thank goodness we should have been having these conversations along time ago. So the value of this website is immeasurable.
Any ideas......
this is just my opinion, but I believe the more black bloggers that are willing to influence our community to stop with the hate, respect and learn to dialogue with others, take personal responsibility sexually, financially etc., we will have a major impact and more so than just focusing on political actism, though that is needed at times.
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