Wednesday, March 25, 2009

Urban League Report: Blacks Are Only 71% Of White Folks - The Perfect Reference

National Urban League Report sees 'sobering statistics' on racial inequality

Another year goes by and, yet again, the National Urban League produces a report that measures the state of Black America against White folks who are the "1.0" that we should look toward for our own standing.

If there is a better claim for the presence of "Non-White White Supremacy" please tell me?

The course of events that occur upon the release of this report is that each year various Black elected officials and activists take a copy of this report to some GOVERNMENT BODY and says something to the effect of "See! We need to DO SOMETHING about this because this is unacceptable".

Rarely do we see hundreds of thousands of these reports being printed and then handed out to BLACK PEOPLE with the words "See!! We need to do something about this!! Your daily activities are aggregated here in this report". For those who are mentally defeated - such an action as I suggest would be seen as "blaming the victim".

Why is it that no one thinks to ask if the forces that have the most unchallenged influence over Black America are indeed effective after years of seeing this stagnation?

The recent report that Washington DC has an HIV epidemic or that Black people under the age of 50 have a heightened risk of heart failure IS NOT going to generate any particular ORGANIC movement within Black America to "DO SOMETHING" about these direct assaults to our longevity.

Ironically - the more OUTSOURCING of our desire to close the gap with White folks the more impotent we become as a culture in carrying forth such a task.

Skills are developed via the ownership of the challenge, the determination of the necessary behaviors to achieve the task, the dissemination of the information about the mission to the masses and then the management of the effort via constant feedback and course correction.

By hoisting the results from this annual report as a mission for the GOVERNMENT to address or even worse yet to make the case that LINGERING RACISM is the cause - the Black community is done a disservice.

I have constantly ranted about how the very worse possible circumstance for a certain prevailing order to be in is when it is ALL ALONE BY ITSELF and forced to deliver for the people who remain behind. At this point is when the failings and dysfunction of this set of thoughts are shown in their most distilled and concentrated form.

In the absence of the long time adversary to divert blame upon......those who are ideologues and are more interested in POWER than they are a FIX.....will simply point to the violation of the SOCIAL CONTRACT that the departure of the ADVERSARY has been to the interests of the people who remain, have the elected political power of their own choosing but still suffer, having not attained any of the purported benefits that were to be delivered when people they favor "run things".

At what point does serious introspection come?

Is this anything more than ideological bigotry at work which prevents such change?

16 comments:

Anonymous said...

Why is it the government's resonsibility to address this perceived "dysfunction" in our society? If there is any "lingering racism" it is only because the "black people" perpetuate this by their own actions, or lack of action. If the "black people" truly want the change that the voted for on election day then THEY need to do something about it. I agree, it is time for some serious introsepction.

Anonymous said...

A psychologist once said, in order for a person to solve a problem they have, they must first own it. If they persist in thinking the problem is with "someone else," it will never get solved.

If Black Culture continues to blame everyone else for their problems, those problems will never go away.

About 17% of the population in the US is black, but for all the attention they get, you would think it was more like 80%. That's a problem to begin with. Rap music continues to glorify inmates, gangsters, and thugs. That's a problem. Black children who try and do well in school are put down by their peers. That's a problem. Many Blacks seem to preach that they have some special kind of entitlement in many cases, more so than Whites. That's a problem. I never even thought of O.J. Simpson as a Black man until the Black community told me he was Black and would probably not get a fair trial. That's a problem. Black people are not the problem. Black Culture is. If you would work on changing what your culture values, by taking ownership of its shortcomings, you will probably be well on your way in solving the problems you have. I think a good cultural model would be the Jews. They do well, no matter what kind of situation they have been in.

Anonymous said...

This is just one more instance of playing the race card, and the Urban League has a vested interest in slanting any poll or study, the existence of the Urban League depends on having as large an underpriviliged black consitutency as it can get.

And don't roll out the "it's cause of slavery" "and this is payback for our women" arguments, many, many whites stood on the auction blocks right beside blacks and Indians in the country, and many women and girls were bought by blacks and Indians, so much so the Colonial Assembylies finally passed laws against it.

As for crime and employment, what can you think or say when a 16 year old strapping healthy young man says he "ain't gonna work for no minimum wage, gimme something paying 10 - 15 dollars an hour and I'll think about it." and you're told by black probation and parole officers "blacks, and a lot of others, look at it like this, I can make 3 grand in a weekend and you want me to work for minimum wage? and laugh in your face."

The truth is my neighbors and I live a lot harder than many if not most blacks I see in my neighborhood and surrounding areas because we don't have any intention of "working the system and we're old and worn out from paying taxes for welfare, education, legal/judicial costs, medical, etc. bills for others when most of us couldn't afford health insurance or a decent car to get back and forth to work so we could pay more taxes, and ours were not cushy high paying jobs, for most of us it was just above minimum wage and still is 7.50 an hour at a local hospital doing cleaning and emptying bedpans.

Here's the bottom line, I don't want to hear this garbage anymore -show me some effort to work and make your own living and personal responsibility in making life choices or shut up.

Anonymous said...

What is sobering about it? Im sorry Urban League supporters, but it's hard to be sympathetic when you see "blacks are six times more likely to be imprisoned than whites." Bottom line? Stop breaking the freakin law already. Are blacks more likely to be targeted than whites on the whole by law enforcement? Well hell yes they are, when you have statistics like these it's hard to ignore who the biggest dangers are in our society. For every lowlife white criminal there is an average of 6 lowlife black criminals, that's basically what Im getting from their statistics. That and the fact that even though blacks are six times more likely to be criminals than whites, they are only twice as likely to be unemployed. Seems to me businesses making hires are doing everything they can to hire blacks, but it's pretty hard to keep someone employed if they are six times more likely to be a criminal. Just simple math is all.

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]If Black Culture continues to blame everyone else for their problems, those problems will never go away.[/quote]

There is a POLITICAL component to the NUL, NAACP and other operatives choosing to OUTSOURCE their "social justice" demands upon the government and thus the society at large.

The sad fact is that the more dependent the Black community is in obtaining these items the better it is for the incumbent party which is promising all of these things if we CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THEM.

The sad truth is that the system which is necessary to make the Black community more ORGANIC would require a reverse in course and thus would be a threat to the embedded Black establishment as it is currently ordered.

They are more interested in retaining and growing POWER than they are in fielding a FIX that also maximizes the organic action of what the Black community must do internally.

Our FIX and our INTERNAL ACTIONS are intertwined.

Anonymous said...

[1] At times, it is hard to take your diatribes against groups like the NUL seriously.

You say that you're upset that the NUL asks the government to provide solutions. Well gee whiz - that's one of the things they do - lobby for government solutions to the country's problems.

I'm looking at the 3/21/09 issue of the National Journal . These are the top 10 organizations in terms of lobbying dollars spent in 2008

1, US Chamber of commerce: $62.3 million
2. Institute for Legal Reform (US Chamber): $29.2 M
3. ExxonMobil: $29.0 M
4. AARP: $27.9 M
5. Northrop Grumman: $20.6 M
6. PhRMA: $20.2 M
7. American medical Assn: $20.9 M
8. GE: $18.6 M
9. National Assn of Realtors: $17.2 M
10. American Hospital Association: $16.7 M

All told, the Top 25 organizations in lobbying spent $468 M last year to to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. No black organizations were on the Top 25 list.

Bottom line is, African Americans are a political constituency, just like banks, doctors, old people, etc. There is nothing inherently wrong with the NUL lobbying for things that will help that constituency. In fact, it seems to me that the problem is that the black community doesn't have the resources to lobby for its interests like other groups do.

[2] You take potshots at the NUL for asking for government intervention in certain areas. But help me understand: what is it that the NUL is saying that you are against?

For example, the League supports these things, among others:
• Increasing funding for underskilled workers' job training programs.
• Steering workforce investment dollars to construction industry jobs.
• Funding infrastructure development for public building construction and renovations of schools, community centers, libraries, recreation centers and parks.
• Creating a temporary public service employee program.
• Passing a home buyers' bill of rights that would protect and educate consumers and provide home-buying help.
• Restoring a small business loan program and continuing tax credit funding.

Those seem like positive and useful public policy prescriptions. Are you ideologically against positive and useful public policy prescriptions?

[3] Finally, I know that you have a self-help "heal thyself" approach to things. I have no problem with that.

The problem is that you seem to summarily dismiss any and all appeals for government support, especially if they don't have some kind of self-help verbiage embedded in such appeals.

That's unfair. There's nothing wrong with addressing issues to the government on one hand, and then addressing issues to the black community on the other.

The NUL approach, for example, consists not only of lobbying the government, but also working with commercial institutions to benefit the African American economy. Working with leading financial institutions, lenders, corporate partners and government, last year the NUL:
• Helped 200,000 people secure jobs, housing, new business opportunities and financial literacy
• Placed 25,000 people into jobs, from entry level to CEO
• Assisted 26,000 people with job training and career counseling
• Provided housing counseling to 20,000 people with $15 million in mortgages for new home-buyers
• Funded over $60 million in economic empowerment programs

NOTE: A FULL list of the NUL's activities can be found on their web site. The above is just a snippet of what they do.

This is NOT to say that the NUL is a perfect organization by any means. But the NUL is part of the solution. Your posting makes it appear otherwise, which is unfortunate.

Constructive Feedback said...

(I wish some of you would post with your names. That way I can figure out which "Anonymous" makes sense)

HERE IS THE KEY FLAW OF YOUR ARGUMENT!!!!

[quote]Bottom line is, African Americans are a political constituency, just like banks, doctors, old people, etc. There is nothing inherently wrong with the NUL lobbying for things that will help that constituency. In fact, it seems to me that the problem is that the black community doesn't have the resources to lobby for its interests like other groups do.[/quote]

If the NUL s measuring the relative economic standing of the "Black Constituency" please show me another group out of your list that argues "discrimination" based the unique characteristics that make up their group?

I will even field an example for you in order to show you how wrong you are.

* Big Banks vs Credit Unions

Indeed Credit Unions lobby the government for certain regulatory relief to ensure their existence. The big banks have tremendous power and thus the interests of CUs can be trampled absent regulatory intervention.

NOW - let us make note of the error that you have made in assuming that a RACE OF PEOPLE are different from an Interest Group.

1) All Black people are NOT POOR and thus the "economic interests" of Bob Johnson and Oprah Winfrey are very different from the people living in North Philadelphia who are poor. All Credit Unions have a vested interest, however, in avoiding the high financial reserve requirements that commercial banks are mandated to carry.

Not surprisingly though - YOU MISS the main point of my critique.

The NUL, just like so many other Black Establishment entities can articulate what the GOVERNMENT must do to intervene in the problems that impact the Black community. They are equally as disinclined to go directly to the Black community and make the equation "IF you want THIS......we need to do THIS in support of these goals. Your actions are the primary way that we will achieve this end."

At the end of the day Anonymous - beyond the ability for you and the NUL to provide a LIST OF WHAT THEY ARE DOING It is critically important that anyone who is truly interested in a FIX as the question "Has it been COMPREHENSIVE ENOUGH to result in EFFECTIVE CHANGE?

It seems that you are more smitten with arguing on behalf of the NUL rather than dispassionately noting the EFFECTIVE RESULTS.

Anonymous said...

If the NUL s measuring the relative economic standing of the "Black Constituency" please show me another group out of your list that argues "discrimination" based the unique characteristics that make up their group?

This argument is flawed, by your incorrect belief that the NUL is dedicated to arguing discrimination based on the unique characteristics of their group.

Consider the case of AARP, which was the 4th highest organization in lobby expenditures. AARP does not see itself as an organization that is built around discrimination against people over 50. Their purpose is to advocate for people over 50, by pushing public policy which is useful to that demographic group.

So it is with NUL. NUL is not about arguing discrimination or racism. Just as with AARP, NUL is about advocating public policy that useful for the African American demographic group. This is the mission of NUL, from the NUL website: The mission of the Urban League movement is to enable African Americans to secure economic self-reliance, parity, power and civil rights.
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All Black people are NOT POOR and thus the "economic interests" of Bob Johnson and Oprah Winfrey are very different from the people living in North Philadelphia who are poor. All Credit Unions have a vested interest, however, in avoiding the high financial reserve requirements that commercial banks are mandated to carry.

All people over 50 years old are not poor (or rich), all people over 50 are not Democrats or Republican, all people over 50 are not urban or rural. Yet, AARP has 35 million members because those members feel that there is enough commonality in their demographic group that an organization built around that commonality is a viable one.

As for the black community: we share a common history, a common culture, and the demographics of our group are unique when compared to whites. Indeed, the NUL's State of Black America annual report provides an excellent detail of the differences between the African American demographic group and the rest of the nation.

I can accept that you don't feel that the AA community does have enough in common that an AARP-like group is right for us. But we'll have to agree to disagree on this point.

At the end of the day Anonymous - beyond the ability for you and the NUL to provide a LIST OF WHAT THEY ARE DOING It is critically important that anyone who is truly interested in a FIX as the question "Has it been COMPREHENSIVE ENOUGH to result in EFFECTIVE CHANGE?

First, for the record: I only provided a snippet of what the NUL does. To see what it does, I strongly encourage that anyone reading this go to their site and look at what they've accomplished. I truly believe that anyone who's looked at what they've done would agree that they are doing positive things for the community.

Is the NUL perfect? Nope. Like the NAACP, it is struggling somewhat in this new era (post-civil rights, or whatever you want to call it).
Having said that, the idea that the NUL is itself responsible for "comprehensive enough" effort is wrong. Just as I don't depend on the government to do everything, I don't expect the NUL to do everything.

The NUL is not the messiah, and should not be held to that standard. I don't look to them for the "Fix." But I did cite a very small subset of what they've done, such as how they've helped 200,000 people secure jobs, housing, new business opportunities and financial literacy.

I don't know if this qualifies as effective change. But I'm sure the people they've helped appreciate what the NUL has done, as do I.

Bottom line is, groups like the NUL can't be all things to all people. This is NOT a weakness, it is an example of focus.
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The irony is, there are many things about the NUL that do need a change. I would refer everyone to the book “Last Chance: The Political Threat to Black America” by Lee A. Daniels (a former NUL executive.)

Lee talks about the historic role the NUL and the NAACP have played in the public policy sphere, why those two groups have declined, and what they should do to further the progress of African Americans in this so-called "post racial" era.

Constructive Feedback said...

Anonymous:

Since your argument is that the NUL (and NAACP) is advocating for the best interests of the Black Community - IF WE LOOK AT where there are the highest concentrations of Black people and thus the presence of POLICIES that are most popularly held by Black people (and thus not opposed by the NUL/NAACP).......can you argue that these policies are EFFECTIVE at carrying out their prescribed objectives?

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]I strongly encourage that anyone reading this go to their site and look at what they've accomplished. I truly believe that anyone who's looked at what they've done would agree that they are doing positive things for the community.[/quote]

I have stated previously that I am an active contributor to the National Urban League as evidence of my understanding of their works.

AT THE SAME TIME - I am bothered each year as they choose to make WHITE FOLKS the perfect "1.0" reference for Black folks to measure ourselves against.

It is clear to me that:

1) Documenting the relative standing of two groups
2) Detailing the line items that an organization has done

DOES NOT equate to a COMPREHENSIVE SOLUTION to the problems of the people in question.


In my observations certain people are inclined to be satisfied with the list of what a favorable organization has done while not considering these works in the context of its proportionality to the problem.

If I told you that I had a bucket that I used to throw water back over the wall during the time of Hurricane Katrina - I would receive brownie points on your list. You would not figure that I was too effective, however, based on the details of what we both know has happened.

Anonymous said...

I am bothered each year as they choose to make WHITE FOLKS the perfect "1.0" reference for Black folks to measure ourselves against... Documenting the relative standing of two groups; DOES NOT equate to a COMPREHENSIVE SOLUTION to the problems of the people in question.

CF, you are looking at the NUL report in the totally wrong way.

First, it is not saying that whites are "perfect". It's simply performing a comparative analysis of the state of these two ethnic groups.

For example: let's say USAToday does a graph showing the 10 US cities with the highest murder rates and the lowest murder rates. The city with the lowest rate would not be perfect. (Perfect = zero murders.) But it does provide information, which can then be used for further analysis, discussion, and strategy making.

The NUL report is an extremely useful (and ingenious, as executed) tool for measuring black progress. But it is not an end in itself, it is the means to an end.

So... OF COURSE this report, in and of itself, does not equate to an effective solution. But before you can solve a problem, you have to know what the problem is. That's what this report is for.

As an aside, sometimes I have talked with whites and blacks who have totally uninformed ideas of the state of the races.

I've heard black people say things like, "We're no better off now than we were 60 years ago" {although I haven't heard that much since the Obama election.}

I've also heard whites say that "black people today have it better than whites."

I think the real problem is that the people who really need the info in this report are the most unlikely to have seen it. And that's too bad.

Anonymous said...

It is clear to me that... Detailing the line items that an organization has done... DOES NOT equate to a COMPREHENSIVE SOLUTION to the problems of the people in question...If I told you that I had a bucket that I used to throw water back over the wall during the time of Hurricane Katrina - I would receive brownie points on your list. You would not figure that I was too effective, however, based on the details of what we both know has happened...

In my observations certain people are inclined to be satisfied with the list of what a favorable organization has done while not considering these works in the context of its proportionality to the problem.


Metaphorically, you seem to be saying that what the NUL is doing is a drop in the bucket. That is unfair.

Last year, the League helped 25,000 people into jobs, from entry level to CEO. Perhaps that's a drop in the bucket for you. But I think the people who were helped would say that was effective action for them.

Last year, the League assisted 26,000 people with job training and career counseling. Is that just a drop in the bucket? Why would that not be considered 'effective'?

Last year, the League provided housing counseling to 20,000 people with $15 million in mortgages for new home-buyers. Is that inconsequential?

Last year the League funded over $60 million in economic empowerment programs. Is that considered inconsequential? Would the black community be better off without this type of support? I don't think so.

Last year, the League provided diabetes testing and health-care education to over 130,000 people. Is that inconsequential?

I'd be very interested in hearing the names of black organizations with a better record of service.

You ask the question, where is the League's COMPREHENSIVE SOLUTION? I don't get the question.

One point that conservatives often make is, the government can't solve every problem. Yet, when a black public policy and service organization can't solve all the problems of black Americans, they are seen as "bad" and inconsequential. Please.

I don't expect the NUL to solve (or be able to solve) all of the issues facing African Americans. That will take the efforts of the NUL, the NAACP... government action, when appropriate... the work of black churches... involvement in PTAs... bloggers... individual citizens... etc etc. If you were to hold any one of these groups/entities/organizations individually accountable for a comprehensive solution, then ALL OF THEM WOULD BE FAILURES.

The NUL is not part of the problem, it is PART of a COMPREHENSIVE SOLUTION. We need all of us to grab a bucket and help. From what I can see, the NUL has grabbed a lot more buckets than most... a LOT more. Again, I'd be interested in seeing the names of African American organizations who've done more.

This is not to say the NUL is perfect. Far from it. A LOT of people have talked about how groups like the NUL, NAACP, SCLC, etc, need to change/evolve in the face of the challenges facing African Americans today.

But even with such changes and evolution, the NUL will NEVER by itself be able to implement a COMPREHENSIVE fix. We shouldn't hate on the NUL simply because they are not able to achieve the impossible.

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]First, it is not saying that whites are "perfect". It's simply performing a comparative analysis of the state of these two ethnic groups.

The NUL report is an extremely useful (and ingenious, as executed) tool for measuring black progress. But it is not an end in itself, it is the means to an end.[/quote]

Anon:

If you notice - the top 10 cities list does not seek to promote a reference of "1.0" as does the NUL report. They use absolute numbers and then stack rank the cities where they reside.


Again - beyond the issue of placing all Whites at 1.0 - as if "all Whites" can be categorized as such when the fact is that there is a cavernous set of differences between Whites the big problem that I have with this style of analysis is that it speaks little to the locomotion by which the Black community will use to advance ourselves.

Again - I assure you that significant portions of the Black community repudiates many of the economic, academic and cultural means by which the White have obtained their "1.0" rating. Thus in my view the production of ORGANIC reference points that are achievable while maintaining your dignity is what needs to be referenced.

Accompanying this must be the acceptance that despite not having achieved "equality" with Whites - you have maintained your dignity.

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]Metaphorically, you seem to be saying that what the NUL is doing is a drop in the bucket. That is unfair.

Last year, the League helped 25,000 people into jobs, from entry level to CEO. Perhaps that's a drop in the bucket for you. But I think the people who were helped would say that was effective action for them.
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Anon - do you mind if I assist in interpreting your motivations?

You come to the table with the assumption that the NUL are "the good guys". Thus you provide a checklist of their works and are satisfied with them.

(Again - I am a donor to the NUL and view them very differently than I do the NAACP - who I would not give a dime to)

Yet as we consider the landscape of problems that beset the Black community - I am not sure if you are willing to take a step back and notate that despite the good works of the NUL - the problems persist in great abundance and thus for all its good..... A NEW, MORE COMPREHENSIVE STRATEGY is needed.

For many Black folks - after having "given it all that they've got" and STILL falling short - the claim of PRESENT RACISM and the damage from Slavery's past serves as the filler to explain the gap. The question of a fundamental reinspection of their assumptions and ideology is rarely on the table. With them comes the assumption that "they are right" and their adversaries (the Conservatives) are wrong. There is few points of evidence that could ever provoke them to believe otherwise.

Compare this to the state of affairs that are presented when an adversarial governing force is in power? Just as the good works of the NUL is never too short - the works of your enemies are never enough.

Plain and simple - the "Black Movement" is today as it always has been - The Fight Against White Folks And The Power That They Have.

Even when Black folks (and or a sufficient amount of favorable Whites) are in power over the institutions of Black America - and we are still shorted - THE FIGHT GOES ON!!

This destroys all of the natural give and take upon the GOVERNMENT that is presiding over your community. When they fail you - it is the greater society that has actually failed you. Instead of purging them - you continue your fight against those who you chased out of office in the seats that you now sit. You go to where they now sit and do what you do best - file grievances.

Anonymous said...

{{Again - beyond the issue of placing all Whites at 1.0 - as if "all Whites" can be categorized as such when the fact is that there is a cavernous set of differences between Whites the big problem that I have with this style of analysis is that it speaks little to the locomotion by which the Black community will use to advance ourselves.

Anon - do you mind if I assist in interpreting your motivations?}}

My main motivation was that I feel your criticisms of the NUL State of Black America report were neither right nor righteous. I've actually used the NUL State of Black America reports for various papers and blog postings. I've found the reports to be extremely useful.

I think we are at the point where we have to agree to disagree. I'll just make these closing comments, and then add one last post here.

[1] I fundamentally disagree with your take on the NUL State of Black America report. It does not state or even imply that whites are perfect. Saying that "y = (n%) of x" does not mean that "x" = perfection. That is something you are reading into it based on your ideological viewpoint, I believe.

[2] RE the comment "the big problem that I have with this style of analysis is that it speaks little to the locomotion by which the Black community will use to advance ourselves"... two things.

First, EVEN IF the NUL report offered no prescriptions for relief, it would still be valuable as source of information and analysis. I think you would agree, there are many people, black, white, and otherwise, who are uninformed and ignorant regarding where Africans Americans are in terms of education, health, financial standing, etc. The NUL report is a great, quantitative based source of information. The report is useful on that basis alone.

[3]But the thing is, the report DOES in fact contain public policy proposals for dealing with the issues faced by the black community. It is a solutions oriented document.


[4] The thing is, you apparently feel that public policy proposals (i.e., proposals for government action) are "bad" or "useless," and that only proposals which talk about actions to be taken by and for the black community are legitimate. So be it. Other people think otherwise.

I would just note, again, that the NUL is, in part, a public policy organization, like AARP, like the Heritage Foundation, the National Center for Public Policy Research, and the American Enterprise Institute (these last three are all conservative policy groups).

There are probably hundreds of pubic policy groups out there. Even if the NUL only did public policy work, like these other groups, the League would still be useful, for advocating for the African American constituency in the pubic sphere... imo. But we are on the same page that the NUL does more than just make public policy proposals.

Anonymous said...

Yet as we consider the landscape of problems that beset the Black community - I am not sure if you are willing to take a step back and notate that despite the good works of the NUL - the problems persist in great abundance and thus for all its good..... A NEW, MORE COMPREHENSIVE STRATEGY is needed.

I have no problem at all with acknowledging that something different must be done to address the problems faced by the black community. I think that's obvious to just about everyone.

But I disagree with your comments concerning the NUL. Consider this example discussion:

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Person 1: ChemLawn sucks. It's a good company for lawn care. But here's my problem with it. They don't do pest and termite control. They don't do security. They don't do home improvement. There's just too much stuff they don't do when it comes to taking care of the home.

Person 2: What are you talking about? ChemLawn is a dedicated LAWN CARE company. Of course they don't do that other stuff-it's not what they do! What's next-complaining about pigs because they can't fly?

Person 1: I don't care what you say. It is a matter of fact, ChemLawn doesn't offer a COMPREHENSIVE STRATEGY AND SOLUTION for taking care of homes. Until they do that, I say they suck.
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That what it seems to me you're saying-that the NUL is "bad" and "ineffective" because it doesn't have this COMPREHENSIVE strategy. The fact is, the NUL is PART of the solution, but it is not THE SOLUTION.

I think there are more legitimate questions to be raised about the NUL, such as:
(a) Should the NUL mission or strategies be changed to adapt to the so-called "post civil rights" era?
(b) Is the NUL making the best use of its resources?
(c) Are the organization's leaders doing a good job?

Those questions would make for a good discussion. It's too bad they weren't asked.