The following is an exerpt of the line of reasoning that I am forced to debate against in my fight against the views of the Black Quasi-Socialist Progressive-Fundamentalist Racism Chasers.
(Note: I have decided to split this into 2 posts. This post will be an unmolested version of Wizz's thoughts. The second version will be my rebuttal)
This is taken from a poster named "Wizz" who is relatively new to the BookerRising.net blog community:
Ok CS/CF whatever you are calling yourself... Lets slow it down. Maybe you can get this through your thick skull...
Constructive Feedback: I am attempting to comprehend why a DEMOCRATIC INTENTION WHILE IN POWER is less reprehensible to you than a REPUBLICAN ABSENCE?
Wizz: First off... Black communities do not exist in a vacuum. They exist in majority white counties, majority white states, and a majority white nation (up until recently dominated by Republicans). So your contention that all their shortcomings is ALL due to the democrats that run them is just not true. Those democrats that run those cities are in constant fights with their neighboring communities and states for funds, services, and business.
When I see black democratic politicians fighting for funds for schools... They are usually fighting AGAINST REPUBLICANS...
When I see black democratic politicians fighting to get machine guns out of the hands of gangs... They are usually fighting AGAINST REPUBLICANS...
When I see black democratic politicians fighting to get money to hire more police in their neighborhood to fight the criminals... They are usually fighting AGAINST REPUBLICANS...
When I see democrats fighting to hold on to the successes that we have had because of and since the civil rights movement they are usually fighting AGAINST REPUBLICANS...
On and on and on... You get the picture (well maybe not CS/CF)..
So not only are Republicans not offering any solutions, they are ACTIVELY FIGHTING AGAINST the people who are trying to offer solutions. Republicans are not just ABSENT... They are the OPPOSITION... So in my normal functioning mind. If I see Democrats voting for these things that I agree with.. And Republicans voting AGAINST these things that I agree with. Guess what??? I'M GOING TO KEEP VOTING FOR MORE AND MORE DEMOCRATS UNTIL THEY START WINNING THOSE VOTES!! So come up with some better ideas or get the hell out or the way... I mean is that REALLY that hard to comprehend? If so then I can not help you.
Constructive Feedback: What ever the Republicans are FAILING to offer Black folks there is a growing number of Blacks who are choosing to LIVE RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO THE REPUBLICANS so that they can get whatever the rest of Black folks find repulsive.
Wizz: This is your dumbest statement yet... I know not one non-criminal black person who finds the benefits of exurban life "repulsive". Most black people are good, hard working, non-criminals who want the best for their children even though they weren't able to get if for themselves. However MANY of them will NEVER be able to afford the $300K+ homes or the $1500/mo rent in order to move into those neighborhoods. Black people want the same as every body else.. good schools, nice homes, low crime, community services, parks, extra curricular activities for their kids, etc... THAT'S THE WHOLE DAMN POINT!!! The only people I see fighting to try to bring some of these things to black communities have a "(D)" next to their name. But for some strange reason that I will never understand you want me to vote for someone who has been fighting against everything that I want my politicians to be fighting for.. It makes absolutely no sense.
If those blacks outside your window came from good circumstances you may be able to convince them to vote republican, probably on tax issues alone.. However if those black folks outside your window actually did come from nothing, out of one those inner cities, then I highly doubt they will ever vote Republican... Because they still have mothers, uncles, nieces, nephews, cousins, etc.., who are still struggling through the mess of the cities... And they are looking out the window at you and wondering how in the hell can he NOT understand what the hell is going on. To them you are the enemy of their entire family and friends who are still in those neighborhoods.
So why do these exurban cities have all their services covered plus some, while the inner-cities can't get the basics? Money, Money, Money... C.R.E.A.M. These cities are bringing in tons of cash off housing taxes alone.. Then throw on top of that all the money they can get off business taxes. They can bring in businesses by offering huge initial tax breaks because they are getting plenty of revenues from other areas like home taxes and other businesses... Then throw on top of that they usually have much smaller populations. So the revenues per person are much higher. They can over fund their schools, over fund their police, over fund their parks and recreation, etc... I bet E. St Louis does NOT have those luxuries.
So until you and your Republican friends can come up with some ideas to address the problems in these cities that have very little money, please spare me the WHINING about blacks only voting for democrats. Because democrats are the only ones coming up with ideas. And it couldn't be more obvious that Republicans don't give a damn.
The one criticism I will put on black voters is that they don't take primaries seriously. If the Democrat you elected is not doing what he said he was going to do then he needs to be taken out through the primaries. And continue to do so until you find one who will. But that sure is hell not an argument to vote Republican.. WHY?
Well thats it.... I can not break it down any further for you. I don't have time to break down the whole black community's mentality to you. Either you get it or you don't.. And you obviously don't.
Wizz | 02.07.09 - 12:47 pm | #
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When I see black democratic politicians fighting for funds for schools... They are usually fighting AGAINST REPUBLICANS...
When I see black democratic politicians fighting for more funds for schools, I have to ask... you already spend more money than anyone else per pupil, and get the worst results. Why should I think that more money will solve the problem?
When I see black democratic politicians fighting to get machine guns out of the hands of gangs... They are usually fighting AGAINST REPUBLICANS...
When the issue of machines guns comes up, I always ask, "machine guns are already illegal -- why are you worried about taking my non-machine guns?" And then I get called a racist.
When I see black democratic politicians fighting to get money to hire more police in their neighborhood to fight the criminals... They are usually fighting AGAINST REPUBLICANS...
When I see black politicians fighting to get money to hire more police, I ask, "what about all the money you already have? Stop spending so much on failing schools and sweetheart business deals and divert that money to policing."
When I see democrats fighting to hold on to the successes that we have had because of and since the civil rights movement they are usually fighting AGAINST REPUBLICANS...
When I see someone say this, I think "the opposition to abolition was from Democrats... the opposition to Brown v. Board of Education was Democrats... the opposition to the CRA of 64 was Democrats... but you blame Republicans?
Only thing I can think of that causes someone to think like that is bigotry.
Most black people are good, hard working, non-criminals who want the best for their children even though they weren't able to get if for themselves. However MANY of them will NEVER be able to afford the $300K+ homes or the $1500/mo rent in order to move into those neighborhoods.
Most white people are good, hard working, non-criminals who want the best for their children even though they weren't able to get if for themselves. However MANY of them will NEVER be able to afford the $300K+ homes or the $1500/mo rent in order to move into those neighborhoods.
Life sucks. Get a helmet.
The only people I see fighting to try to bring some of these things to black communities have a "(D)" next to their name.
The only people I see fighting to actually bring these things to neighborhoods anywhere, rather than just fighting to give the appearance, have an (R) after their name.
When a black business opens, first he gets deluged by building inspectors(D). And then he has to get all of his permits from the bureaucrats(D). Some of those have to come directly from the city counsel(D), who aren't going to "play ball" without a "donation". Then, he gets told by the local tax collector(D) that he has to pay more to operate than a white business 20 miles away because he has to "give back to the community", which apparently involves anything other than running a profitable business there.
All the while, his business is being eroded from under him by theft, robbery and vandalism while the local chief of police(D) spends all his time writing traffic ticket and doing drug busts where he can seize fancy cars (to drive around in later.) Sure you could go to the city counsel(D) or the mayor(D) or even the local police association(D), but where do you think that is going to get you?
[quote]Only thing I can think of that causes someone to think like that is bigotry.
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This IS what it IS. BIGOTRY!!
I think that one portion of the INFERIORIZATION of Black people is to assume that WE are not able to hold irrational thoughts based on HATRED just the same as WHITE FOLKS DO which cause us to believe and do things that ultimately harm our own position.
Volumes have been written about WHITE FOLKS IN THE SOUTH and how their racial bigotry has allowed them to remain economically stagnant. The same is true among BLACK PEOPLE in certain areas though this is not commonly mentioned.
The racial bigotry in White folks is expressed as IDEOLOGICAL BIGOTRY in Black folks.
The Republican Party is seen as the proxy for White Supremacy among many Blacks. Sadly these same Black folks fail to see how LIBERAL WHITES express White Supremacy by assuming the inferiority of Blacks. To them, and sadly many Blacks, we are in a permanently damaged state because of slavery and racism.
Even when the combination of Black and Democratic take over of vast regions of a city or county fails to produce the favorable outcomes - these bigots who are joined at the hip under one political party look toward CONTINUING RACISM as the reason for their failure rather than inspecting the flaws in their own ideology which contributes greatly to the subpar results.
When it is the fault of the NEXT MAN there is no need to do introspection.
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